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Sobre Super Intensive course starts on 11th January, 2010 at 1 pm
Super Intensive course starts on 11th January, 2010 at 1 pm
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Jorge Alberto
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Hi George
The things that I know about October 2nd, 1968 it`s that in that year was a massacre because a lot of people who didn`t was in the march died for the full of many people who was crazy but all these things was provocate per Diaz Ordas who was the president of our country but all these things began when in the schools began to saw the movements and the plans that the goverment want to do for stop the education level and the students of that time didn`t want that and ofcourse the goverment how stop that, only killing all that students because when the time pass more and more people start to see the intentions of the goverment and the problem began to be more big and more big.
And in my opinion that was terrible because many people who never had to be in the problem died because many people crazy killed them and I think that the measurings taken by Diaz Ordas was worst than others because why kill students he doesn`t think in his family or in his life that if he does that he maybe was in danger.
And that`s all the things that I can say because that thing`s that pass in 1968 was terrible not only for students, it was to for families.
I rode about of this topic, so in my opinion, it was a accident because of the army they was a people who lived in town or they lived so far of the city, in some books that i rode had a explanation diferent, but there are once that speak in another manners, it said that this army didn´t understand the signal, the capitan who gave the order only raised your hand because all the prople standed up and he was preparing for wathever happened.
When the president explined anybody belived him but after somedays all wanted to began the olimpic games, only the family was affected followed with march or events that explained the fact.
In other opinion explain that it passed for hide something about the activities of the guberment and in many times we have passed exacly the same, the guberment in a moment unexpected prepare activities for dispet own mind and all people accept it because the mayority live a life withouut preocupations or don´t do annything in your life only increment the population and do the costd public and the situation of mexico is every time wrong, but the big problem is that this type of prople increment and they don´t know and the ít isn´t important for them.
Hi George, article "People in most countries around the world are happier these days"
I thing is an interesting research, I agree that I belive that the respect to the free determination is fundamental for the development of the individual, and make to feel well to the people, other aspects are democracy and economics, these es very important because if democracy exists you can have the confidence that your rights will be respected, the economics part also is important, if your needs are satisfied yoy have tranquility, nowdays people live with very much stress, the population growth and the pace of live don´t make people happy. Also I belive that the coutries i which people are happier is because they are not very affective and they don´t become attached to the persons. I belive that the problem is that people centre the happiness on the material things and forget the spiritual part, if our rightd are respected, we have to work in our basic satisfied needs we will be able to be happy.
Hi George
October 2nd, 1968 was a tragic day because many students wanted a bether city, a new Mexico.
They did a protest march for show their unconformity about the situation in Mexico City, with this march the government of the president Gustavo Diaz Ordaz was felt threatened so he sending military forces for suppress
to students and this finished with massacre in "La plaza de las tres culturas" on Tlatelolco.
Hi teacher!!!
Well in my opinion this date is very important to remind us the sacrifice tht other people do for us, the students. The students in that time demanded for a better education and now a lower level. So they took the intaltions of educations in differents parts of the state and closed them.
The climax of everything was in Tlatelolco, where goverment sended to the army to "calm" the problem. But the true was other. the army had orders to killed to the students who didn't cooperate and as result many student resulted hur and killed, it was a masacre of students who only wanted a better place to living. Also The goverment hid his crimes and it seems that never happened... But this movemnt it wasn't exclusive of Mexico it was a response of all students arond the world.
I think that thanks to them, to the students that had the courage to said "no! I want a better education and respect for part of my teachers, I want to express myself!!", we have many priorities and benefits that they couldn't got, so we have to be greatful and push to our friends and companions to demand what we deservered.
p.s sorry for didn't take the class last saturday, but I didn't feel well. Thank you for understand :)
In my point of view…mmm oh my god i don’t know that happened in 1968 really, the little that I know is that every year many people are meeting in the Tlatelolco´s three culture plaza because they remember the conflict that happened in 1968 when the students had the problems with the army for reasons that I don’t know but I think that the government thought the meetings maybe will can cause problems with the develop the Olympic games in Mexico and for avoid serious problems send the army for controlled the situation, furthermore the students crated the general strike council. In September 18 and 24 the army entered in the facilities of the two best Universities of Mexico UNAM and IPN, (I remember that my teacher of the university talked about this fact and she said that many teachers and students was captured for the army, the army had big guns and all people had fear, this fact was in October 1). The 2 October In the afternoon students, teachers, parents of same students went at the Tlatelolco´s three culture plaza for begin the discussions about the problems, when suddenly from a helicopter was dropped flares occurs more problems all people fall of fair run, some minutes after armed people began to fire, some people hid in the flat´s of the buildings but the army entered in each flat search for capture students. This fact is called genocide because many people died. Actually every year in 2 October many people that are called “students” (in my opinion are stupid´s and ignorant) cause problems in the street when really they don´t know the story real, this people is people without things to do. I would recommend this link is in Spanish:
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movimiento_estudiantil_en_M%C3%A9xic...
hi teacher.
really i don´t know nothing about what happened in 1968, i only know that in those times, the students had a lot of troubles and complications because they did movements where goverment was one of principal affected. Ipn and unam were the principal universities that make a lot of most seriously troubles.
so, goverment attacked students with armed soldiers, begining the death of hundreds in tlatelolco´s plaza.
since then, a lot of students go every october 2nd in a movement repeating the same thing that students in 1968 did.
i remember that.
I think october 2 is the result of impunity and corruption of a goverment that was dispousted to killing student in order to follow protocol. A goverment of impunity only on the service to a few and to they best interests. I think is humilliant as a nation that this happened that show the low level of education and conscience in the people that is happy with the confort of every day life that confirm that we are a town without memory, but with a lot of scars taht are there to remind us that really happened and not to forget that the tigger never will be vegetarian.
the movement was in tlatelolco in 1968. The president was Diaz Ordaz. I know that students wanted a change in the country, like a revolution because they wanted a comunism in Mexico but the politic had the power. However students began a movement before that students had plans to do it. When the day arrived the problem began. People began to shot them beside the killers shot innocent people. It was terrible. I saw a movie about this. people said that Diaz Ordaz gave instructions for to do it. On the other hand we remember those students because they were potencials. They wanted to change our country.
in my opinion that was terrible because many people who never had to be in the problem died because many people crazy killed them and I think that the measurings taken by Diaz Ordas was worst than others because why kill students he doesn`t think in his family or in his life that if he does that he maybe was in danger.
well, I don't know much about this... because I don`t lived in those times, I born later, but I've heard some about what ocurred that day...
Some say that it is a day to remember, I had heard that many people died just becuase they wanted some liberty in their way to express themselves.
Also the news tried to hide how many poeple had died, and said that only had been some hurt...
The point is that in that day many tried to be free in a way, to have more rights to the eyes of the government and they are heroes for my eyes, because no many people thinks to do that...
hi george
i dont know so much about the 1968 but i think that it was a succes very important for thye politics and the last education in these moment
I think that this day is very important for mexican society, since taught us that we need be aware about the situation of this country, October 2nd, 1968 was a tragic day because many students died, but we need still find our way and waste our time thinking about the past. We need solve the problems of our time and don't make the same mistakes of the past.
Hello George..!
How are you?
Well, first of all.. I have sent you my comments, but you haven´t correct them, is there any problem?
Well, I know some things about this date, my uncles, parents and teachers have told me some details.
I think this movement is an important part of our country's history, that reflects what life was like in those times, where the government suppressed the students.
I know that students gathered in the plaza of the three cultures to express their concerns and President Diaz Ordaz command to kill all those people, which I feel is a complete injustice.
I hope that today does not happen again.
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George, Good Night,
Well, i think that the killing of october 2nd in Tlaltelolco was a cowardly act from part of the government of president Diaz Ordaz, in complicity with the Government Secretary Luis Echeverria.
The student’s demands were just and reasonable, and the reaction of the government was in aggressive way. In a mitin they send soldiers and tanks and many people died in a cross fire, the students, and even civilians, take refuge in a church in the middle of the square, but the priest had received orders to close the gates.
The media announced that only a few people died that night, but at the same time, hundred of students were under arrest in the Military Base No. 1, and decens of bodys were sended to the Olympic Stadium of University City. That’s why the questions: ¿Can we really trust in the media?, that facts just make evidence of the clear handle of information that the government makes when the situation its adverse for them.
Goerge, I´m sorry, i forget the Group: CIA9VE105 Universidad Mexicana.
See you next class.
hi!
Well, I know I am not an expert, but what I know about October 2nd is that there was a massacre on Tlatelolco because students wanted to raise their voice against the president, the was that the president didn't accept critics as something people can do to help the goverment but as something people do as an attack to his ways.
Another thing that was important in the decision of sending the army against the students was the proximity of the Olympic Games. The goverment couldn't let that this important event that was going to take place in Mexico was damaged because of a strike so they stopped in the fastest way that the found and covered it up making the media to announce that only few people died.
I think that everything that happened was product of a wrong decision and it hurt a lot of people, even nowadays we still remember what happened that day.
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