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Prevention or prohibition?

Capital may alter hours for alcohol

By NACHA CATTAN

The News

A bill that would require all bars in Mexico City to stop serving alcohol at 2:30 a.m. passed a city Assembly committee on Wednesday.

The legislation would do away with after-hour clubs and cantinas in a bid to curb alcoholism and reduce drunk-driving accidents - one of the main causes of death among young people in the capital.

If the bill passes the full Assembly - which could happen as soon as Thursday - liquor stores would have to close up shop by midnight and nightspots will have until 3 a.m. to escort patrons out.

The bill also puts a cap on open bars, a measure that was applauded by liquor industry representatives on Tuesday, who said that unlimited and often cheap alcohol service promotes the unregulated sale of liquor beverages.

"The idea isn´t to stop young people from having fun, but to prevent their principal reason for gathering together [from being] alcohol," Isaías Villa, the assemblyman who introduced the bill, told The News.

But critics warn that barkeepers will simply bribe police to prevent their taps from running dry before 3 a.m. and hurting their business.

They note that current laws restricting watering holes from opening past 4 a.m. are often ignored.

"Police will come and owners will say, `Here is your 500 pesos,´ " said Enrique Alvarez, an education administrator from the Benito Juárez borough in Mexico City.

"Why do we have to suffer just because of a few people who get wasted and crash their cars?"

The initiative would also require all hotels to offer condoms, either for sale or for free, in case customers request them.

Another key component of the bill would give city borough officials a 10-day deadline to reject requests to open restaurants, hotels and theaters.

If the borough does not respond to a request in time, the establishments can open their doors automatically instead of waiting months for approval, Kenia López, a member of the Assembly, told The News.

"This will boost jobs," López said.

I have some questions:

1. What do you think about this?

2. What do parents think?

3. Will this bill change young people's habits to drink?

4. Is this a good measure to stop car crashes after 2 am?

5. How will " the pre-copeo" be stopped?


I am quite sure the answer to many of today´s problems is "education".

4, dic | 24 comentarios Posteado por: Jorge Alberto compártelo

24 comentarios

alex 13 ene 2009 | 08:19 PM

I think the main issue here isn´t the closing time of the bars is the unlimited quantity of alcohol that people costume withiut being responsable of their own acts.
If the bar closes at 3:00 am we will continue party time on the car on the way home, so isn´t this more dangerous? I think the matter her is education and limits after all the way people drinks shouldn´t be goverment problem.

Mireya Garduño Martínez 14 ene 2009 | 07:01 PM

I think, the legislation is very good, but it isn’t a total solution because the owners of night-clubs, cantinas, bares etc no respect the legislation because their business depend on the alcohol’s sale. May be that any owners respect the legislation and that is a help.

The solution depend on that young’s parents make aware them on the alcohol’s dangers since the alcohol’s drink never will be useful for anybody and then this legislation won’t be necessary, but unfortunately is more easy to happen that others persons solve the problems that we provoked and like this no to assume responsibilities.

In conclusion, in my opinion, the legislation is very good only we need to see if it will be keep or simply to expect to that the problems in the young be bigger that now and no exist a solution.

Karin García 17 ene 2009 | 06:29 AM

I think that if young people wants to drink only probable they will find the way to do it somewhere else, I believe the problems is that they don’t have the proper education in their houses, so probably another way to solve the problem would be to create conscience of the problem instead of the prohibition.

If this bill apply a lot of jobs are going to be lost, as well I don’t think that is fair.

And as well I consider that most of the people like to gather at night not only to drink buy to dance, celebrate, talk or just unstress.

Depending on their way of thinking I believe all of them are worried about their kids, and they think this is the perfect solution to their problems, I guess they think that the government has to solve their education problems.

As I already said they If they really want to do it, they will do it no matter what.
I do think it is a good measure to stop car crashes, but again if people don’t receive the proper education about the consecuenses maybe this rule is not going to work.

About the precopeo, maybe they will create another bill that restrincts alcohol to early.

Israel Alejandro Montero Reyes 22 ene 2009 | 04:50 AM

In my opinion, the bill is very good because is a partial solution to curb the alcoholism and the drunk-driving accidents, but if we don't have a proper education about the alcohol and its consequences, the people will find the way to drink alcohol, in their homes, in their cars, is not necessary that they drink in a night-club.

We need to be aware about the alcohol's dangers for that this bill going to work since the main solution to solve this problem is the education, this bill is not a prohibition is a prevention which with the proper education will solve the problem.

Lluvia María Zedillo Contreras 23 ene 2009 | 05:44 PM

I don't think that by applying a law that restricts the sale of alcohol after 2:30 am is gonna stop the car crashes.

The problem is not drinking a lot, the point is that this generation is growing rapidly and fearless. They're not going to stop them from drinking just because this "bill" says so, on the contrary: the more forbidden is something, the more exciting the idea of consuming it is.

You need to educate people first in order to make them respect the laws.

Guillermo Marmolejo Lugo (ESCA UI1) 24 ene 2009 | 01:48 AM

I don’t agree with the part which says that the sale of alcohol will be forbidden after 2 am.
Somebody told me in some places of Europe the sale of liquor beverages is not restricted in fact the students can get them with an special discount and the drunk-driving accidents are not to frequent.
I think, the intention is good but the solution is wrong, if someone wants to keep drinking and risking his or her life he or she will do independently of the laws or authorities after all in Mexico we can solve every problem with a “Sor Juanita”
In the other hand I agree with part which says that the hotels must offer condoms.

hilda depardon 24 ene 2009 | 02:31 AM

i think that it is important because you care the people for many accidents in the city and it is not good the alcohol in ours

Vanessa B. Espinosa Cazares 24 ene 2009 | 06:34 AM

I think is a good measure for prevent the drunk-driving accidents, about all the young people. I believe this could be good if all the process is done in the correct form but in this country is something impossible because it lack of honesty. And I think is the main problem with this kind of rules because the government permit that the owners bribe to the police, we need that the police to be more honest and make sure that the law to obey for all people.

lilith (liliana espinosa) 26 ene 2009 | 10:41 PM

ok. I think that maybe the problem is not that young people drink ot¡r not or if the bar closes at a certain time and you can't continue your party there or not. I mean the point is that is no problem if you drink or not, the problem is how you drink. Like the leader of The Misfits says: "Ever'thing is good & you can do anything you want as long you are respnsable of your acts and never fall in excess." except music of course, with the music you can exced all you want ^^.....
so also the real problem is that the people never or almost most of the time learn, the worst of the things is that in some cases the things can end bad...

ESTHER MARTINEZ RUIZ (ESCA) 29 ene 2009 | 05:30 AM

HI george!

i think this is, maybe, a way to prevent a lot of accidents during the night but in my opinion, this sounds more like a prohibition... i mean, instead of doing that prohibition, they could have tried to improve the education... in that way... people would be more careful and there wouldn`t be such a lot of accidents, so this measure would`t be necessary
i think the principal problem here is the education and if we solutionate this problem... everything, and not only this part of the society, would be better

answering the second question, i think some parents do like this measure but others think as i do...

mmm... i don`t think that this measure will change how the people think about this and their habits... do something about te education would show us better results

mmm i thik that the number of accidents will be smaller... but... you know... what about the person who drinks in his house and drives on the streets after that? this measure is not doing anything about it

mmm i thik that "the pre-copeo" will be stopped in the bars, but people can drink in their houses and this measure is not doing anything about that... so i guess the education is the "key" in this problem

Kisses
Esther
upper int-1

CESAR RODRÍGUEZ RATTS 29 ene 2009 | 09:55 PM

I think this prohibition is a politic facsist. we most be free. The government shold take care to citizens, I know that, but the people who drink don´t going to stop just because the law. the accidents will continiue happening whith or whithout this prohibition.

the government should offer more alternatives; places where fun all night without any danger. movie marathons, concerts and festivals in general.

I think that the problem is not the alcohol, is the people stupid and the irresponsability.

VERONICA VERA 30 ene 2009 | 06:26 AM

I believe that youngers has to have their own responsability because ther are parents that worry by their sons. However the consume of alcohol is macive that´s why I agree with the recommendation. The pubs can close at 2:30 o´clock but I suggeste that people don´t drive if they drank.

fernanda 1 feb 2009 | 06:53 AM

Well the true it´s that i don´t think this meassure will help to stop the level of crash at ninght, it´s not about to close early the pubs or ninght clubs it´s about education, young people have to know and been concient about the concecuences for driving drunks.
I´m young and i like go out with my friends at ninght and drink a couple of shots, but also i liketo dance and talk with my friends about everythink and anythink and obviosly have fun because that´s why i go out at ninght, but this hapen rarely because my parents knows that a lot of accidents hapens at ninght because there are people who doesn´t think about concecuences for driving drunk maybe because they estupidily think that that kind of thinks doesn´t hapens to them and because i know how do you feel when you´re drunk you just don´t think that´s why campains like "designed driver" should be annonced much more to educate people.
But i have one advice for every body please take care and value your life because you´re very important to many people and there are many who wait for you in your home because it´s terrible when in the midle of the night your telephone rang and somebody tell you that your brother had just an accident and that you have to go to help he, that my friends it´s really terrible that hapens to me yesterday it´s true fortunately my brother it´s recovering at hospital but he doesn´t have car anymore and he is very confused because he never tough he will crash. so please think a lite bit more. it hapens all the time and every body unfortunately one law don´t go to stop irresponsible people and don´t make them think we ned to understand that.

ALEJANDRA BECERRIL 2 feb 2009 | 03:29 AM

Hi, teacher George.

This is a really interesting situation that is happening in our country, but well, in my opinion it will be difficult, because many young people drinking until very late,and this law will be difficult to accept, although like the law against snuff, it might be gradually accepting.
My parents hoped that this measure will allow the number of accidents is lower. But I think it is very likely to increase the number of drunks and people who started drinking earlier, hence yes the chash before the 2 will be pursuite, but is probably that the chash will start earlier perharps at 10, 11 or 12, when many people retorning home.
Definetely, this bill change will affect both consumers and many businesses such as bars and taverns.

yass 2 feb 2009 | 07:19 AM

Hello teacher!
I am Yasmin from U-3.
I think that stop serving alcohol is a good idea because teenagers and also adults use to drink after midnight and they cause drunk-driving accidents. The local goverment must control or limit alcoholism because this is the most important cause of death among yuong people apart from suicide and anorexia.
Is true that barkeepers will simply bribe police, it is normal in this Country and everybody do it. The thing I don`t understand is why don`t they think about their family, They may become damaged by somebody driving drunk.
About parents... I think the problem is education. They give us some advices and We choose what to do, we are not children. Life and be succeesful is only for intelligent people, not for idiots and for lazy people.
Of course this bill will change yuong people`s habits to drink. If they used to drink until the morning, they won`t do it anymoreand I feel so happy about it because my brother is one of them. Two years ago He had an accident when he was walking drunk in the street and he was knocked down by a car. Thanks to god He is well.

Luis Alberto Maceda Vela 2 feb 2009 | 07:37 AM

Hello George,

It is obvious from the data that some of the riches countries are the happiest. But there are also some other well off countries that are not as happy as the some other rich countries. For example, I see Japan, South Korea and Hong Kong with not many happiness. I think they do as good as like United States, and the European countries, but how they do with there country like economy, business and money is not the thing that make them happy. I believe they do good in that stuff, but I think they only think about money that they are not happy. Mexico is not as well off as the Asian countries, but we live better because we have a different culture that is not about money or having a well job. Of course, we like money, but we like more our families and it is more important to us.

Ana Luz Upper 1 Sabatino 5 feb 2009 | 09:44 PM

About this article, I think is a little subjective because problems with alcohol, that people has passed, like car accidents or fights between customers, this 2 points are a cause of alcoholism. Talking about accidents, the most important cause of that is alcohol and in their majority, the victims are taken to the hospital, to have a fight for their lives.

I think that the problem won`t be solved with this decision that was taken by our authorities, because it deepens of each person, everyone have to choose, everyone have responsibility and everyone have they own kind of mind so I think that everyone have the power to find a solution and the accidents could disappear or have least frequency.

We have to start with our family, the change starts in our homes, we have to teach to our children how they cloud become in a good person and we will have a better place to the next generation.

EMMANUEL JIMENEZ TAMARIZ (ESCA) 7 feb 2009 | 06:26 AM

My opinion is.

All that person who give this ideas, need to apply in themselves because it´s unuseless, It is pointless to propose a rule that they do not respect so the government controls that are applied need to be more tolerant to the society because they are too strict, just take a little breath alcohol to be in jail.

But in general I´m agree,

thanks.

My pleasure

ANGÉLICA KARINA SÁNCHEZ MÁRQUEZ 9 feb 2009 | 04:48 AM

HELLO TEACHER

My name is Karina from Upper Intermediate 3

About this article, I think that is very important to stop serving alcohol in the clubs and cantinas, because the alcoholism is an illnes that affects the health and the family.

And It is the main cause of fatal accidents by car, because sometimes the people don´t think the damages of their acts.

Nowadays young people think that the happiness is synonim of many parties and a lot of alcohol or sometimes the teenagers think that the alcohol will help to forget their problems, but this idea is wrong.

Alcohol isn´t bad, but the trouble is that the people drink in excess.

I think that all should be more responsible about our actions and accept the consequences of them.

Anabel Vargas (UNIMEX 9no vesp) 28 may 2009 | 09:00 PM

HI!!!

This is the first time when I write in English and I´m very happy for this.

Well, I confess that not even finished reading your opinion, when he came to my mind the phrase "education", and yes, I agree with you on this, because if we are away from home all instilled with a strong foundation of respect for ourselves and Moreover, the government or society, would not have to seek a solution to a problem that does not exist.

It is true that youth is sometimes forgets "medirnos" in certain things, it is also true that much fun after a long week of work, school and stress out with friends to drink a beer, dancing, talking and perhaps seguírtela in somebody else's house. But do not forget that our security and tranquility of our loved ones in the middle.

Only a matter of a culture of respect, control and maturity to be able to go out and have fun without having to cause any problems. However, mention should also consider that there are people who are clear what can and / or should do, but that most often are those who end up hurt by the unconsciousness of others.

So I disagree with the adoption of this law, since it does not think it is solution to this problem, the more prohibitions you have, the more options (maybe worse) will seek to continue the spree ...

=)
Anabel V.

Linda Rodriguez UNIMEX 1 jun 2009 | 11:49 PM

I think that mission of this new measurement is Good, and that the real problem is the conscience of each one to take the control from situation.
My parents think that the youth of today this outside control, so that they compare the times of the past that they lived.
The habits don´t united with the rules, he habits do united with the customs and the family culture.
The car crashes wont stop unless the people become aware from the consequences the excess of to drink.

Arelli López 18 sep 2009 | 04:56 AM

Hello!
Well, I think that the hole idea about the bill is good, but i don't believe that it's going to change the way that young people drink alcohol.
I think we all like to go out and have fun but the important thing is to think of the consecuences that all we do can bring, because not just because we want to have some fun and drink, it doesn't have to hurt someone else.
If there's a drunk driver, he is a danger to all the people in the streets and that's the thing that we need to change. Well that's my opinion.

Diana Jimenez [EBC] 18 sep 2009 | 05:34 AM

hi!!!
well basically I think it's a pretty good idea, but the reality is another like it's mentioned in the article, education is the problem, maybe some of us will respect that bill but a lot of owners of that kind of establishemnts will offer to the policeman some money, and in Mexico almost all of the police accept it. They haven't realized the big problem that is to aloud people to keep drinking like it's the last day of their lives.
Also I would add that we are not going to stop having fun, drinking and going out to pubs or parties, but I think we all have to make some conscience that just in one moment we can loose our lives or ruin our lives for being drunk, we can kill somebody.
The government could implement some punishes to police people who accept cash and also to people who offers it, because if we still do that we will never ever be a mature civilization.
I think that the difference is in us, we can make a difference and a better capital in here, only if we get used to obey the rules that we have.

javier rosales tovar (ABC) 25 sep 2009 | 02:26 AM

HI!

Well i think that the drunk people is funny they are always making people laught and they also control the natality killing inocent people or themselves.

The alcohol can´t be a prohibition, because thats the way many people get
de-stress.

Also the alcohol makes that mexican economy continue flowing. Another thing is that there are some persons that whit alcohol feel like a real men XD.

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